Уже вбухнули и он там. А зачем его запускать в июле, если он сейчас не работает? Лишний мусор на землю не везти :))

если он сейчас не работает
ща какой нить мп 42 припаяют и все это дело пустят от солнечных батарей калькуляторов и он заработает))))а да еще составят доп соглашение для закупки с кетая калькуляторов павасоник надож как то еще 100 тон енотов убить)))

Да, спутник ни разу не транслировал а уже похоронили! Интересно какие отзывы о качестве сигнала будут о "Кедр" 59 или.................

яж выкладывал видео в ютубе ссылка выше записывал еще в феврале когда его включали

Второй день слушаю, а вдруг появится сигнал сквозь шумы ), через минуту следующий пролет - прям над головой будет, может повезет.

Тишина.... В феврале тоже принимал когда тестировали

Не повезло, тишина и покой (

Молчит, как рыба, уж лучше репку включили, народ друг друга бы поздравил с днем Космонавтики! Пользы кудауж больше было!

11 апреля с середины дня по московскому времени до середины дня 13 апреля будет включен в тестовом режиме спутник КЕДР(ARISSat-1), который находится на МКС. Спутник имеет официальный позывной RS1S (а не RS01S). Спутник будет передавать голосовые сообщения на различных языках, изображения SSTV (Robot) и телеметрию. 30 сек передача и 2 минуты пауза. Спутник передает на своей частоте 145,950 Мгц (0,5 вт)

Сигналы спутника ретранслируются на частоте 437,55 МГц через бортовую радиолюбительскую станцию МКС.

QSL карточки посылайте на МКС - RS0ISS менеджера RN3DK – Александра Давыдова. Спутник будет запушен в автономный полет с борта МКС в июле.

Кто-нибудь слушал на 437,55 МГц, тоже тихо?

Тихо и там.

Странно все это, они наверно выходной спалили и теперь ждут когда доставят новый, либо аккумы подсели! В июле мож заработает! Будем надеятся.....

После безуспешных попыток принять спутник, позвонил вчера вечером в ЦУП Самбурову Сергею.
Он рассказал, что всему виной выход из строя аккумуляторов.
В ближайшее время аккумуляторы отправят на Землю. Хранить на МКС их нельзя.
Изменить что то сейчас уже невозможно.
Обещал исправить ситуацию в июне-июле, когда Кедр выведут из МКС в открытый космос и подключат к нему солнечные батареи.
Сергей Самбуров сказал, что тогда уж точно успеете наслушаться им как маяком и скорее всего в нем включат FM репитер.

В качестве компенсации мне было предложено провести связь с МКС по заявке через сайт:
http://rs0iss.ru/rules.php
Подумаем, может быть и решим в каком-нибудь коллективе поставить временную УКВ позицию.
Это вариант скорее для популяризации любительской связи в год 50-летия первого полета в космос.

RA4SD Алексей.

Vlad1
сайт:
http://rs0iss.ru/rules.php
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Неплохо бы было, чтоб опечатки поправили:
коммуникатиыных качеств
Это обусловлено спецификой планирования деятельностью космонавтов на борту МКС.

Неудобно перед молодёжью. :)

Позорники!! вечно всё у них через ж....

Он рассказал, что всему виной выход из строя аккумуляторов.

Ну да. Это ж догадаться надо было, что их или полностью отключить надо, чтобы 2 месяца от потребителя не разряжались, или заряжать периодически. Конструкция явно не расчитана на хранение в кладовке 2 месяца без подзарядки. В общем, аккумуляторы попались негодные...

Ненадо было на спутник ставить GP Ni-MH :-) (шутка)

Так надо было подготовиться, проверить аккумуляторы, а потом обещать что спутник будет в эфире

Тогда бы не выглядело все так "сложно и напряжено". Но порадуемся за то это изделие(спутник) например не оторвало конечность или пожар не устроило на борту :)
Космос и Аккумулятор "вещь серьезная", вспомнил сразу как один "длб" довел до взрыва батарею 10-НКГЦ-1Д правда дело было на земле.:)

как всегда в россии через .... Аккумы на ебее наверно покупали чинанайнаопа опачинанай. Просто сколково еще на полную мощьность не вышло.

Да ладно вам, зачем накинулись на кустарный любительский спутник. Ну не получилось у любителей, бывает.
Вспоминаю реальный случай конца 80, дело было в Плесецке, почти всех «шпиёнов» пускали именно из
г Мирный. В неделю бывало по четыре пуска боевых спутников. Пустили очередной, на орбиту вышел, телеметрия есть, а данных, так скажем, нет. Пошли на склад и удивились боевой лежит, а учебный, точная модель боевого, летает :))

ща какой нить мп 42 припаяют и все это дело пустят от солнечных батарей калькуляторов и он заработает))))а да еще составят доп соглашение для закупки с кетая калькуляторов павасоник надож как то еще 100 тон енотов убить)))
повторюсь))))

Пустили очередной, на орбиту вышел, телеметрия есть, а данных, так скажем, нет. Пошли на склад и удивились боевой лежит, а учебный, точная модель боевого, летает :))
Малек не так. Бабки у подъезда сказывали, что на орбиту вышел, отснял, да так там и остался. Чесали причастных начиная с хвоста и до начала. Нашли-собирали бегом по звонку, последние цифры совпали (отдельные слухи) у изделия на складе и запущенной пустышки - томозника. Бабки,ЕМНИП, срока называли 8 и 11.

Обнять и плакать ...

PS сорри за английский, но зато в оригинале, от чего :-(

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 104.01
>From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD.
April 14, 2011
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-104.01

The planned operation of ARISSat-1/RadioSkaf-V/KEDR on April
11 and April 12 from inside the International Space Station as part of the
commemoration of the 50th anniversary of Yuri Gagarin's flight was not
successful. No earth stations on the ground reported hearing transmissions
on the ARISSat-1 downlink(145.950 MHz for FM analog/145.920 MHz for
digital).
The planned retransmission of the satellite's FM downlink via the Kenwood
TM-D700 transceiver --currently used for ARISS contacts--was also not
successful as no reports were
received of signals heard on 437.550 MHz. However, a
similar ARISSat-1 transmission test conducted in February was successful,
with 145.950 MHz signals being successfully received by several ground
stations.

At this point it isn't clear to the ARISSat-1 team what went wrong with the
most recent test. Unfortunately, little information has been shared by
RSC-Energia concerning plans made to configure the satellite and the
interface used to connect the satellite to one of the external ARISS
antennas.
The status of the satellite's Russian-provided silver zinc battery is also
unknown.

ARISSat-1 is a cooperative effort of AMSAT, RSC-Energia and NASA. AMSAT
designed and built the spacecraft as a prototype of a proposed series of
educational satellites which can carry student-built experiments. The
ARISSat-1 prototype features a student experiment designed and built by
Kursk State Technical University in Russia. A backup was also provided
(without solar panels). AMSAT delivered the two units to NASA's Johnson
Space Center in Houston, TX in early October. NASA has led the integration
of ARISSat-1 into the ISS flight program. NASA coordinated the logistics of
transporting the satellite and a backup unit, including export licensing,
from Houston to Moscow. The shipment occurred in early December immediately
following RSC-Energia confirmation that the appropriate import documentation
had been approved. NASA also conducted the three-phase Payload Safety
Review that ARISSat-1 had to pass in order to be permitted to be shipped to
the ISS and deployed from the Space Station. Per protocol agreements signed
by AMSAT, NASA and RSC-Energia, RSC-Energia assumed full responsibility for
ARISSat-1 after NASA shipped the prime and backup units. RSC-Energia's
stipulated responsibilities included integration of the Kursk experiment,
providing a silver zinc battery for the spacecraft, shipment of the primary
flight unit to the ISS via a Progress Cargo vehicle (which took place in
January 2011) and subsequent deployment during a planned Russian EVA in
February 2011.

Once AMSAT shipped ARISSat-1 and the backup unit in early October, AMSAT was
no longer directly involved with management and operation of the satellite.
AMSAT agreed to send a representative to Moscow (Lou McFadin, W5DID) in
order to assist with testing and final checkout of the satellite once it
arrived from the US. Lou was accompanied by NASA's Mark Steiner, K3MS and
the requests for visas and access the RSC-Energia facilities was coordinated
by NASA. Due to visa limitations (Russia does not allow changes to visas
once individuals are in Russia), the window for Lou's and Mark's time in
Moscow could not be changed once it became apparent that the shipment was
being held by Russian customs and wouldn't be released until after the
expiration of visas.
During the time that Lou and Mark were in Moscow, testing procedures were
drafted and agreed to by RSC-Energia's principal investigator for ARISSat-1
(Sergey Samburov, RV3DR) as a signed protocol to assist the Russian
engineers with testing and checkout without the presence of AMSAT. Lou and
Mark departed Moscow on 22 DEC 10 for the US and the satellite with the
backup unit were subsequently released from Russian customs and delivered to
RSC-Energia on
28 DEC 10 following submission of appropriate documentation by RSC-Energia.

In addition to the missed opportunity for AMSAT and NASA to participate in
the checkout in Moscow, the delayed release from Russian Customs also meant
that the satellite arrived in RSC-Energia just as they were commencing a
10-day total holiday shutdown from 1-10 JAN 11. In order to make launch of
the Progress 41P cargo vehicle to the ISS in January, the satellite had to
be flown to the Baikonour Cosmodrome on
11 JAN 11, the day after RSC-Energia personnel returned from their holiday.
Sergey Samburov, RV3DR spent a period of time during the holiday period
conducting a checkout of the satellite, but it is still unclear whether the
documentation provided by Lou McFadin and Mark Steiner and agreed to as a
protocol was followed. For example, AMSAT and NASA have yet to receive any
of the full set of closeout photographs of the satellite's exterior
stipulated in the protocol.

The satellite did make the flight to Baikonour and was subsequently flown to
the ISS on 28 JAN 11 on Progress cargo vehicle 41P. Once the satellite
arrived at the Space Station, there was another unexpected alteration to the
original plan which has been previously agreed to by AMSAT, NASA, and
RSC-Energia. Russian officials now wanted confirmation that the satellite
was in working order prior to EVA deployment.
Why this decision was made was never fully explained to AMSAT or NASA. Even
though the satellite was never intended to be operated from inside the ISS,
the RSC-Energia team made plans to operate ARISSat-1 from inside the ISS
during the period
10-13 FEB 11, connecting the two-meter transmitter to one of the external
antenna used for ARISS contacts with the intent of getting confirmation from
ground stations that the satellite's transmissions could be received by
amateur radio stations on the ground. This unexpected development raised
AMSAT and NASA concerns given the potential for damage to the spacecraft
inside the ISS and the possibility of misinterpretation of results. Despite
these concerns, the test was successfully conducted on 10 FEB 11 for 20
hours with the Kenwood TM-D700 on the ISS used to verify normal transmission
from the satellite. Ground stations, including Tony Monteiro AA2TX, did
provide reception reports confirming successful operation of the satellite.

ARISSat-1 was scheduled to be deployed during Russian EVA-28, scheduled for
16 FEB 11, as one of the planned tasks on that EVA. However, AMSAT and NASA
were informed on 11 FEB that RSC-Energia officials decided to remove the
satellite deployment from the Russian EVA-28 schedule of activities due to
complications with another task scheduled for that EVA. AMSAT and NASA were
informed that the
ARISSat-1 deployment would be rescheduled and included as a task in the next
Russian EVA, currently scheduled for July 2011. Around the same time, the
RSC-Energia Principle Investigator mentioned the possibility of a "special
event involving ARISSat-1" around the date of the 50th anniversary of the
Gagarin flight commemoration on 12 APR 11. AMSAT and NASA inferred that, by
retaining the satellite onboard the ISS until the next Russian EVA in July,
RSC-Energia could ensure that the satellite could be activated within the
ISS specifically for the Gagarin Commemoration.

During the period from the testing on 10 FEB 11 to the planned time of
activation on 11 APR 11, the satellite was placed in storage on the ISS.
AMSAT and NASA were not informed of the configuration the satellite was in
when it was stored, though it appears that the Lexan covers over the solar
panels had been removed and replaced by 'soft covers'
that were meant to be used only in preparation for deployment.
We were not informed if the satellite was deactivated following the test, or
if the battery was disconnected to prevent drainage, or if the satellite may
have been inadvertently left on. Given that operation of the satellite from
within the ISS was never part of the original plan and these activities took
place without AMSAT and NASA involvement, the ARISSat-1 engineering team is
in the dark concerning the impact of storage on the satellite. As the
originally agreed-to plan was to deploy the satellite within only a few
weeks of arrival on the ISS, there were no provisions made in the satellite
design to prepare the satellite for long-term storage on the ISS.

Adding to the lack of information was that the primary RSC-Energia Principle
Investigator for ARISSat-1 went on vacation for the entire month of March
and there wasn't a designated backup to coordinate with AMSAT and NASA.
Sergey, RV3DR returned from vacation on 1 APR 11, but was unavailable for
the regularly scheduled weekly conference call that was scheduled to take
place on 5 APR 11. This meant that AMSAT and NASA were not apprised of the
details for planned operation of ARISSat-1 for the Gagarin Commemoration
until late in the first week in April. AMSAT sent out a press release to
the media on Friday, 8 APR 11, as well as a special ANS Bulletin containing
the information that had been provided to AMSAT through information gathered
by our counterparts at NASA who have access to a schedule of the planned
daily activities of the ISS crew.

The documentation for the configuration and operation on 11-12 APR was
developed by RSC-Energia without AMSAT or NASA input.
AMSAT and NASA were provided a draft plan only a couple of days prior to
operation; that document was in Russian and we could not comment on it prior
to planned activation. One new development was the last-minute decision by
RSC-Energia to retransmit the ARISSat-1 two-meter FM downlink on 70 CM by
configuring the Kenwood TM-700 that is currently used for ARISS contacts in
cross-band repeat mode. The ARISS team was asked for a recommendation on
which frequency would be appropriate to use, and the suggestion was made to
use 437.550 MHz. However, procedures for configuration of the TM-D700 were
not shared with AMSAT or NASA. There remains the distinct possibility that
the unsuccessful result of this test was due to a misconfiguration of
ARISSat-1, its interface to the ARISS external antenna, or the TM-D700.

An additional consideration is that the Cosmonauts who were available for
the Gagarin Commemoration were not necessarily the same individuals involved
with the 'test' in early February due to a planned crew rotation that took
place in early April, where three individuals (two Russian, one American)
were flown to the ISS to supplement three individuals who were still
onboard.

Neither AMSAT nor NASA received any status reports directly from RSC-Energia
during the timeframe of the planned operation. We also don't know what the
Cosmonauts found when they operated the three activation switches on the
control panel, such as whether the LEDS were lit or not. The status of the
flight battery is currently unknown to AMSAT and NASA.
Hopefully, RSC-Energia will provide an update on the status of the satellite
to AMSAT and NASA and a determination can be made of the health of the
satellite.

As noted above, ARISSat-1 is made possible through the cooperation of
RSC-Energia, NASA and AMSAT. However, the degree of information received
from RSC-Energia has been very sporadic, given that ARISSat-1 is technically
a Russian satellite (callsign RS01S), and, per the signed protocol
agreements, RSC-Energia has assumed full responsibility for all activities
associated with ARISSat -1 from pre-launch preparation in Moscow through EVA
deployment from ISS. Indeed, RSC-Energia has never publicly acknowledged
that AMSAT was the organization that built the satellite nor the significant
NASA involvement in the project. Clearly, what our expectations are
concerning 'transparency' of information does not coincide to what
RSC-Energia has been willing to share to date.

We will continue our efforts to gain insight from RSC-Energia concerning
what transpired regarding their planned Gagarin Commemoration event. We're
anxious to know the status of the satellite as well as prospects for
deployment in July. We are dependent upon the willingness of RSC-Energia to
keep AMSAT and NASA informed. As we are apprised of developments, we will
share that information.

ПЕРЕВОД ГУГЛ но смысл передает

boot
Бабки у подъезда сказывали...
Всё правильно :)

Еще немного о том, что собственно было, инфо AMSAT-BB:
батарейка от костюмчика на 5 зарядов, один использовали при первом испытании (февраль), на 12 апреля обнаружен разряд, решено не заряжать чтобы сэкономить на Июль.
Нипанятна....


This is an update on the ARISSat activities.
We (комманда разработчиков AMSAT) had a telecon with the ARISSat team in Russia. Here is the situation as described by them. The Russian suit battery that was intended to be used on ARISSat was used during testing both on the ground and onboard ISS when it first arrived. When it was tested prior to the planned April 12 operation, it was discovered that the battery was low on charge.
The suit battery's are specified for only five cycles of charge.
It was decided to not recharge the battery at this time in order to keep the number of cycles as low as possible and thus saving the battery for the actual mission. That deployment is currently scheduled for July 26. We are still trying to get more information on the storage status and the battery health from the Russian team. We will keep you informed as we prepare for the eventual deployment of ARISSat.

Нипанятна....

Вопрос в емкости аккумулятора и схеме зарядки. Спутник будет жить относительно недолго, как я понял. Поэтому, если есть возможность безболезненно заряжать аккумулятор через 3 месяца после разрядки, и одной зарядки хватает, скажем, на 2 недели работы ящика, то всё логично. Выпихнули - зарядился (или зарядили - выпихнули), 2 месяца в таком режиме отлетал - упал. В общем, данных не хватает в любом случае.

Посмотрел на фотографию спутника и он меня не впечатлил,этаких два деревенскихUW3DIперемотаных скотчем.Сколько я его пытался прослушать все напрасно.

следующий спутник надо сразу к марсу запустить
чтобы он на немецком английском и французском просил подояния
-месье, же ма неж па сис жюр
-господа я не ел семь дней, подайте бывшему гласному бывшей государственной думы, бывшей кадетской фракции
вот это будет мило и по существу

-месье, же ма неж па сис жюр

месье, же не манжэ па сис жур